"Bill was a host of a TV show called Garage Mahal. My company was doing a garage makeover of TV presenter and announcer Joe Rogan’s garage and we turned it into a training centre. Bill interviewed me about my mat company, and we got to know each other. Plus, there were mats there so the boys will play. And, we did a little judo. I taught him a judo throw, and he asked me to try and throw him!"